sono alle prime armi nella genealogia. Qualcuno mi potrebbe spiegare cosa significa l'aplogruppo R1b1a2, R-M269.
Sarebbero gli antichi celti? Quale tipo di mutazione sarbbe R-M269 ?
Vi ringrazio in anticipo per l'aiuto.
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GENS VALERIA ha scritto:
Si ritiene che l'aplogruppo R1b R1b si sia originato in Eurasia, molto probabilmente in Asia occidentale a partire da circa 18,500 anni fa.
Esso è il più frequente aplogruppo del cromosoma Y presente in Europa occidentale, Eurasia centrale e nelle le regioni del Sud e del Nord Africa.
In Europa R1b è presente a frequenze più basse in tutta l'Europa dell'Est, Asia occidentale, Asia centrale, e nelle le regioni del Sud e del Nord Africa. A causa dell'emigrazione europea raggiunge alte frequenze anche nelle Americhe e in Australia.
Mentre in Europa occidentale si ritrova la principale variante, appartenente a R1b, R1b1a2 (R-M269);
R1b è il più frequente aplogruppo del cromosoma Y presente in Europa occidentale, Eurasia centrale, ed in alcune regioni dell'Africa sub-sahariana e dell'Africa centrale.
Cordialmente
Carlettino ha scritto:Ma se questo aplogruppo serve a scoprire che siamo nati in un'area così vasta, allora è inutile?
Our version of R1b is R1b1a2 (M269) and has two different subclades of interest given our family's geographical origins: U106 and P312. Here is where it gets interesting regarding our family's possible cultural background. Below is a description of the two subclades of R1b (M269) and their cultural-linguistic implications:
* U106: is known as the "Germanic" or "Celto-Germanic" subclade of R1b. Most people with Nordic/Germanic ancestry are in the haplogroup I1, as mentioned earlier, and have their migratory origin in Scandinavia and northern Germany. However, R1b (U106) is a Germanic subclade in a primarily Celtic haplogroup, which has its regional origin in central Europe, namely southern Germany, NE Switzerland, western Austria and the Alps.
* P312: is known as the "Italo-Celtic" or "Basque" subclade of R1b. P312 breaks down even further into the smaller category of U152, known as the "Alpine" subclade. It is characteristic of the Alpine Celts of the Hallstatt culture. The U152 subclade has two "hot-spots", in the Netherlands and in western Austria/Bavaria.
To find your subclade, the FTDNA Deep Clade Test no longer exists. Either order individual SNPs, often found on the Advanced Orders menu, or else order the National Geographic Geno 2.0 test, which automatically tests 12,000 Y SNPs, for $199.95
Alessio Bruno Bedini ha scritto:Oggi sono arrivati finalmente i risultati e purtroppo a 37mrk ho solo due persone a distanza 4 .. un'infinità.
Deep clade tests
Family Tree DNA used the term "deep clade test" to refer to a panel of Y-chromosome SNP tests. This panel was intended to establish which particular subclade the Y-chromosome belonged to. The deep clade test was effectively superseded by the new Geno 2.0 test from the Genographic Project. This new test was introduced in the autumn/fall of 2012 and tests over 12,000 Y-DNA SNPs.
In January 2013 FTDNA announced that they were removing the deep clade test from sale. A link is now provided that will allow people to order the Genographic 2.0 test, whose Y-SNP results can be transferred back to Family Tree DNA.
Single SNPs can be ordered from FTDNA at US $39 per SNP. In January 2013 almost 2000 individual SNPs were available to order from FTDNA. The company expect this number to grow to between 3000 and 4000. For advice on SNP testing consult the project administrator of the relevant Y-DNA haplogroup project.
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